Closed Loop Plastic Customers are AWESOME!
Yeah we might be a little biased, but put simply, the makers that are using our
U-HIPS product for their projects are part of the solution that we set out to
achieve. As part of their efforts, we want to share their stories and product
Perpetual Use Plastics
Brainchild of avid surfer and bodysurfer Bill Raymont, Perpetual Use Plastics
is the realization of his vision to take recycled filament from plastic waste
and giving it new life as 3D-printed hand planes for bodysurfers. As you will
come to find out by watching the interview below, Bill is passionate about
sustainability, the ocean, and design, serving as the basis to create Perpetual
Learn more about Perpetual Use Plastics at https://perpetualuseplastics.weebly.com/
and buy your very own 3D-Printed Hand Plane on his Etsy Shop -
To get started, we’d love to have you introduce yourself and Perpetual Use Plastics, what you guys are doing, and how you are developing your product
My name’s Bill Raymont, and I live in Southern California. I grew up doing the junior life guard program down in San Clemente, and that’s where I first started body surfing. I’m a math teacher in Santa Ana, and a few years ago I got the opportunity to teach a design class where I would have some 3D printers. That was my first introduction to 3D printing. I didn’t know what to think about at first. I was like “why are we doing this?” Well, actually, my math department chair bought a couple of 3D printers, and I was skeptical, I’m like “why are spending money on those”. It took me a little while and I came around and looked at them and I kind of fell in love. I grew up working in my dad’s machine shop and to see how quickly you could create a prototype was just mind blowing to me. So when the opportunity came up to teach a class, I jumped on it. And I got some training but pretty much I’ve been training myself with YouTube videos - pretty much the way people learn in this space.
That’s awesome, I love that story. Can you tell me a little more about your actual product? Do you have one you can show us?
The first one I designed, I printed in PLA. Then I switched to ABS because I thought it was more machinable, and I thought it would perform better in the ocean environment . Then I came across your product and I just fell in love with the idea of using recycled plastics that would be going back into the ocean in a responsible way.
[Whips out his awesome Party Pink hand plane]
Here’s one printed from your pink plastic. It has a concave bottom, you put your hand through it, you use it to plane on the face of the wave and create more lift and more speed traveling across the wave. This is the design I came up with - it has a camera mount that fits a GO-Pro or type of action camera on the front. I played around with the idea of having a strap, but I tried the hand hold as well and I find that this works great.
When I first started using 3D printing, it was as a prototype. But when I took these out in the ocean and I saw how buoyant they were, and a lot of hand planes that are this small are not. So I kind of started thinking, well maybe in small lots we could 3D print these. So that’s what I’ve been working on for the last couple months. I’m pretty happy with the outcome.
[Shows his Nebula Black hand plane]
This is out of your black that you just released. And I really liked how these came out. There’s no paint on this. My process is I 3D print it, then I have a big tamale pot, and in there I use delimonene, so I hang this from some wires inside the pot, and I vapor treat it which melts the surface and seals it. Then I just use a couple layers of clear coat enamel just to make it extra waterproof. Through my best efforts, there are a couple of places on this that are prone to take water in, but if I go out for an hour, two hours and use it, it may take on a little bit of water, and then a couple of days later there will be a little bit of salt that’s seeping out. As I find that happening with the hand plane, I just put a little super glue on it
What platform are you using to design these?
I use On-Shape, the web-based CAD software. It’s what I’ve been teaching myself to use and I really like it. I like the web-based access and as a teacher I like that my students can use it on a Chromebook. Through teaching my students to use it is how I learned to use it myself
Are you incorporating some of these practices in your classroom as well and having them play around with the concept?
I teach a class called Design and Modeling. Things are pretty different this year, obviously, but back in the old days when we were in the classroom, we’d spend a lot of our time looking for problems that we could solve through design. We interviewed people to try and find out what problems they’re having in any aspect of their life and empathize with the problem, and solve it through design. In the past I’ve had my students compete in the Orange County Maker’s Challenge, and a couple of years ago I had a team that took first place and most socially conscious also. That was a highlight of that class.
What are you using today to print?
So far I’ve been printing these on my Ender 5+. I’ve been working on getting the settings dialed in and being able to keep the ambient temperature up, so that I can print well with your plastic. I’ve been considering buying 3 or 4 more of the Enders once I get everything dialed in. However, recently I became aware of a company in Orange County, Spider 3D. They provide a lot of support. More often they work with schools, but I’ve been collaborating with them a little bit and am looking at buying a system of six 3D printers once we get all the settings dialed in. So that’s kind of the new direction I’ve taken just in the last week or so.
How many prototypes do you go through before you landed on this one?
I wish I had some of the early ones here. The first ones looked terrible, but they still worked pretty well. I kind of knew I was onto something once I went out and used it. Then I just started refining and refining and refining. People who 3D print will kind of understand this - the first ones I printed, I printed flat, and you don’t get a nice surface out all. Curves (concave up or concave down) are problematic for 3D printing. Then I started printing them in a vertical aspect, and they looked beautiful, but the layer lines would break. So I added a lip, hoping that would strengthen it and it didn’t, they still broke. So at this point I print them with this orientation (lengthwise down). So I print them like that, and I’ve had them out on big days and they hold up great.
For makers and hobbyists, do you have any advice for when they’re using CLP’s product or any other products when they’re getting started?
I would say try and stick to one type of product. For the very very beginning, it makes sense to start out with PLA just because every machine is dialed in for that to start out. That’s the starter filament that most people use. My progression was PLA, ABS, and then when I first tried your filament I was really worried that it was gonna clog, and it was going to do all this stuff, and I haven’t had any problems with it yet. I find that it extrudes really nice, especially the black. When I treat it with the delimonene, when I give it the vapor bath to Melt the surface and smooth the layer lines, it really looks beautiful.
What are some things you like about our business model and specifically the recycling aspect? Why use Closed Loop Plastics’s filament?
I’m really excited about designing products like this that suit my lifestyle and the lifestyle of my friends which is enjoying the ocean. If you’re gonna enjoy the ocean you have to be a good steward of the ocean. The surf industry is really moving in that direction where they’re looking for their products to be more responsible to give back to the ocean environment, and protect the ocean environment. I just think from a marketing standpoint, if I’m going to be selling these, it makes sense. And from my own personal beliefs, it makes sense. The ocean is my favorite place to recreate and I want to see it protected. And I think that recycling single-use plastics is something we have to do. It doesn’t look like we’re getting rid of them anytime soon, so we need to be re-using them.